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Post by wayne020668 on May 6, 2011 18:46:43 GMT
well we are very excited to tell you after filming for the BBC'S THE ONE SHOW yesterday thinking things cant get any better then today we have been blessed with a new clutch of egg's. a first time laying for this young female so only three eggs but very exciting, these have now been removed from the beach area of the pond and were laid naturally by the female as we watched here dig out her nest and began to lay, we left her to it and returned a few hours later to excavate the eggs. these are now in an incubator so we will let you know when this years first eggs will hatch........ if fertile....
regards Wayne..
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Post by turtlegirl on May 6, 2011 21:01:32 GMT
Congratulations! How exciting -what species is Mum and is she a long term resident or a recent rescue?How are you going to hatch them?
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Post by Turtle Rescue UK on May 9, 2011 20:23:10 GMT
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Post by neilb on Aug 12, 2011 22:09:05 GMT
Also be interested to know what species they are, and whether you really consider it of benefit to be adding to the large number of common species already around in the country, by incubating the eggs?
Neil
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Post by wayne020668 on Aug 13, 2011 0:14:32 GMT
no not at all its not we do here it just adds to problems we see every day... and you...? do you see these problems... everyday, but if it does happen then we do let nature take its course with a little help from an incubator... who wouldn't, just reading all the info you left us tonight it would seem your best suited to caring for all these turtles & terrapins better than us... please forward your address and we will send you all of them...... no not really.... seems you have a lot to say about everything and everyone but not offering any help to others perhaps you could take the time it took to put all of us down to better use in helping these animals at your cost as we do...
i look forward to hearing from you on a positive not if not the last time, everyone involved with this site try's to help each other and be friendly and we won't put up with anyone that thinks its funny to undermine that attitude... everything you have said seems to be negative...on turtles & terrapins being kept in the u.k and not from their natural country's...
to many people can say we have helped them over the yrs with their loved ones are we all at risk from your thoughts.... i think not, the need of many that take the time to help out way the need of one who offers one night of madness...
regards Wayne...
what do other members think please...
regards Wayne..
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Post by wayne020668 on Aug 13, 2011 0:20:03 GMT
just to let you know that these were Australian snake neck eggs worth incubating like all life its worth the trying.... don't you think...
all the feedback from other members and your input in the morning will tell weather all members should put up with all the non help you have offered but to put all of us down here while you offer little more than helping thousands of people and all turtles that require just a little help every now and then...
regards Wayne..
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Post by neilb on Aug 13, 2011 8:38:30 GMT
My intention is not to put people down, not sure why you are taking my comments as such. Another member did ask which species they were and you chose not to answer, which made me wonder whether they were just some RES eggs or something you felt like incubating. I agree completely that there are certain species worth incubating eggs from due to the interest in those species and the lack of availability, but having a lot of experience myself with rescue turtles laying eggs, I would highly recommend against incubating eggs from certain unsuitable and extremely prolific species such as the sliders and cooters, as there are so many unwanted ones out there already and I don't see the point in adding to the problem. As I said, I'm not putting anyone down at all and I respect you for your work knowing myself how difficult it can be, I'm just pointing out that one of the difficult choices we have to make is digging up and destroying, rather than incubating, eggs from certain species as it's the responsible thing to do.
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Post by tramp on Aug 13, 2011 19:54:18 GMT
Is it of benefit?  Why not? ? Have you been to turtle rescue??? no, thought not, cos if you had you would've known that nothing gets destroyed (as you put it) unless absolutely neccessary. Digging up and destroying obviously comes easy to some people. Carry on the great work Wayne, and don't let others put a damper on the things you do for these animals. |
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Post by tramp on Aug 13, 2011 20:06:46 GMT
Well, i've just seen all the other comments by neilb, sounds more like he's trying wreak havoc on this site. Sounds like he's trying to run it into the ground.
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Post by pelusios on Aug 15, 2011 8:50:51 GMT
As a turtle rescue, surely you can see that incubating eggs from common species is not a sensible thing to do? It's just adding to the population of unwanted turtles that get dumped in lakes and end up in rescues like yours? If everyone had this 'mother nature' attitude and incubated eggs produced by their YBS, then your rescue would not be able to cope with the amount of dumped turtles it would produce in future years?!! That is how I understood Neilb's comments... I think you are being a bit over sensitive and taking his comments, not as they were intended. After all, you had not indicated what species of turtle had layed the eggs when Neilb made his comment. I think you are being a bit over emotional about the lives of individual turtles.... and not looking at the bigger picture. Perhaps you should research a little and read into the Carapax fiasco and see what a mess that turned out for the Red Eared Slider?
As for being negative and causing havoc on this site... I disagree, all I can see is Neilb giving some very sound, educated advice. Just because it may contradict yours, there is no reason to condemn Neilb's opinions?
Anyway, on a different subject, what is the scientific name of the 'australian' snake-necks that have produced these eggs? (I only ask as it is impossible to get Australian fauna out of Australia, so I suspect these are more likely to be an Indonesian species)
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Why not?